15: Reversing Ulcerative Colitis in just 16 weeks: A True Story

Your doctor probably told you that Crohn's or colitis are life long conditions. But they're wrong - and we're going to prove it. We're hearing a first hand story from a woman who went from severe ulcerative colitis to having a near perfect colonoscopy in just 16 weeks.

It CAN BE DONE. And she's going to share her story, how she did it and what was actually causing her IBD.


TOPICS DISCUSSED:

• Root causes of IBD
• Is reversal possible? (yep)
• Larissa' story of reversing 12+ years of Ulcerative Colitis

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Transcript

Josh Dech:

If you've been listening to the show for a while and dealing with IBD, you're no stranger to the fact that your doctors have been telling you that your life-altering bowel disease is unfixable, that it's just this permanent lifelong condition with no explanation and all you can do is accept the inevitable, which is a lifetime of drugs and surgery. But if this explanation never made sense to you, that’s probably why you're here.

This show is dedicated to proving to you that this doesn’t have to be your life — and that IBD is, in fact, reversible.
There’s so much more that can be done and everything in the body happens as a result of a cause and effect reaction — especially inflammation. It’s never random.

Lara Tacos was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis in 2013 and it’s only gotten worse for her since. She’s tried all the typical medications, interventions, powerful immunosuppressives and gotten nowhere. But she just got her colonoscopy report back — and her doctor’s jaw was on the floor. Now he certainly wasn’t expecting it… but of course we were.

All it took was 16 weeks in a program dedicated to finding and removing her root cause to begin reversing her disease — from a colon so severe she was on the brink of having it removed to having a near perfect colonoscopy report. And Lisa is joining us today to share her story and show us how she did it.

Contrary to what your doctors told you — Crohn's and colitis are reversible.
Now I’ve helped hundreds of people reverse bowel disease and I’m here to help you do it too — because inflammation always has a root cause. We just have to find it.

This is the Reversing Crohn’s and Colitis Naturally Podcast.

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Well Lisa, thank you so much for being here — very excited about this. You know, the world is under the wrong impression about bowel disease. The world believes that it’s this permanent, unfixable, nobody-can-do-anything-about-it condition — and you are living, breathing, walking proof that this is a very reversible condition. And so I’m so excited that you’re here. I’m looking forward to learning more about you and what’s been going on here — just to share this message.

Before we kick things off, can you just introduce yourself really quickly for us?

Lisa:
Yes, my name is Lisa Casos. That’s a mouthful of a name, but yeah.

Josh:
Well thanks so much for being here Lisa. Here’s what I want — I got a question for you. Can you walk me through what was going on in your situation, in this disease process you were facing — what was happening, what were you dealing with?

Lisa:
Um, like right when I was like contacting you guys, I was in the bathroom 30 plus times a day. Lived my life in the bathroom. The pain was excruciating — it felt like I had squirrels in my intestines with razor blades for hands just like running around. You know, it just be like straight blood, straight mucus. The fatigue I had — I falling asleep while I was driving the car. I was absolutely miserable, at my wits' end.

And yeah, the pain — like the joint pain, not being able to sleep — but I just lived in the bathroom and my quality of life sucked. I was just depressed, full of anxiety. Yeah, it was just horrible.

Josh:
So you got this diagnosis of ulcerative colitis back in 2013. You’ve been dealing with—I mean, it’s quite an analogy, squirrels with razor blades, that’s something I’ll never get out of my head. Much to my detriment. But so you got this agonizing pain, we got blood, we got mucus, we have dozens of bowel movements every day, uncontrollable chronic fatigue. What was the pain like? What were you dealing with? Was it debilitating? Were you able to work, live a normal life? What was it like?

Lisa:
No. Was that—the last I would say year and a half of my life, it was debilitating. Like laying on the bathroom floor crying, you know, in like the fetal position. And like it was so miserable. Like I love life. I’m not a depressive person by any means, I’m pretty active, but I was like, why am I even on this planet? You know, it was just horrible.

Yeah, I was like—I was debating on like putting a TV in the bathroom at that point.

Josh:
I mean at least that’s the worst thing you were debating. There are so many people out that I see on a daily basis who are debating doing much worse things. You know, when it feels like this is the rest of your life, when it feels like there’s no other option, when it feels like you randomly wake up one day sick and your doctor goes “this is just going to be your life now” — like what hope is there when you’re in this much agonizing pain? It doesn’t leave you with very many options.

I think you’ve done an amazing job to this point. But I think it’s that fervor for life that has really gotten you through this and gotten you to a position you’re able to find a solution.

Lisa:
Yeah, I just was like, you know, praying that there’s like a better way. ‘Cause like I don’t want to die. But like that’s what it felt — every day felt like I was dying. Yeah. Like literally.

Josh:
I mean, I want to get through and talk about the solution that you found here, because this really helps set the stage for those who might be new to this, who might be wondering, “Is there hope? Maybe my case is too far gone.” You were in a pretty severe situation.

What were the conversations like? They were talking about—yeah, that was actually, I was going to ask—the conversations with your doctor, what were those like?

Lisa:
It was like last August, everything hit the fan. And uh, yeah, like I spent like eight days in the hospital, a couple other days here and there, and they were talking about, um, like maybe just removing my colon because the damage had spread all the way up past the sigmoid and over and it was just like rapidly spreading. So they were talking about removing my colon just because of the severity. Yeah, it was diagnosed severe, like it went from mild, moderate to severe. They said like my CTs were scar—

Like the other option was, “Well, we can try biologics and Imuran, MP6s,” which I do my own research and I was like, “You're not putting that crap in my body. That’s like chemo drugs.” I already got osteoporosis from steroids, so yeah, I was out of options basically.

Josh:
That’s serious. I mean, you're at—you’ve tried everything. Every drug, every medication. It was so bad to the point where they said, “Hey, let's just cut the organ out of your body,” and that’s the best we can do.

Lisa:
Yeah. And I was debating on it for a minute because I just wanted it to be over with, you know? But like when you think—I'm like, “I’m not going to do that though. Like there has to be something else.” Because like—like what’s causing it? Like no one ever talked about what’s causing it. Why is this happening? You know? Why are my white blood cells going through the roof? Like the whys. It was always like, “Okay, well take these pills and you can eat whatever you want,” which if anybody has inflammatory bowel disease and listening—you know that’s a bunch of lies. You can't just, you know, eat whatever you want, just take the meds. So yeah, I just couldn’t take those meds anymore.

Josh:
Yeah. It’s a hard place to be in, feeling like there are no options, like this thing is random, like it got onto you for absolutely no reason. There’s no explanation. And there’s about 8 million other people in the world right now who are going through what you went through—but don’t have to be anymore. Which is why we’re here. And I really appreciate you sharing your story.

There’s 8 million people—I’ve had people come to see us. I’ve had moms with three-year-olds and five-year-olds who are in so much pain and so sick they can’t go out and play, they can’t walk, they’re so sore, their joints are so inflamed, they’re limping around the house—up to 75-year-olds who just want their grandkids to sit on their lap. You know?

It is a very—the disease is getting worse, it’s getting more common. 35 years ago, there was 2 million people. Today it’s 8 million, give or take. And it is getting worse. But today we’re going to show them there’s something more. And you’ve done it. You’re living, breathing, walking proof. And this is very, very exciting.

So here’s what I want to sort of get to with you. Can you walk me through the last 16 weeks or so of this journey? You were at a place where it felt like squirrels with razor blades in your intestines, dozens of BMs a day, right? At a point where it’s borderline surgery. It was sort of a bottom of the barrel, like I might get this thing out or jump off a cliff, like it’s so severe, the quality of life is that severe. But you went through a process—about 16 weeks—you’re able to find the root cause, to explain finally what nobody explained, to show you like there’s a reason why this is happening.

And you were brave enough to take the plunge and say, “Give it a go, let’s see what happens,” and we’re here today. So walk me through, um, what’s sort of happened these last 16 weeks with you.

Lisa:
Yeah. Well, I mean I saw you guys, you know, on Facebook. And a lot of times, like I’m pretty skeptical about stuff because I’ve dumped so much money into programs and protocols and supplements and like— but like when I was listening to it and I was like—something just resonated. And I was like, “Okay.” And then we had our little interview, and I was actually in the toilet.

Josh:
I believe you were! I remember that very distinctly.

Lisa:
Like that’s where I was at. I was actually in the toilet while we were doing the intake call.

But yeah, like you know, I walked into the program not sure, like what to expect. Had full of knowledge, not knowing how to apply it or what to do. That—and that’s like the worst part for me is like I know all the things but I don’t know what to do with it. I don’t know where to begin.

Josh:
You got brain frog?

Lisa:
Brain frogs! It’s kind of like that actually.

You know, so like, you know, I did the intake process with you guys. And like just even that intake process alone, like talking and checking off like what these symptoms are—like light bulbs are going off. I’m like, “Oh yeah, parasites. This looks like this might be parasitic.” Like it—like just even alone and that like was so eye opening and helpful just answering the questions.

Lisa:
Curtis was my coach — I love Curtis, he’s great. You know, we set up like our first call and I got on those group calls and every group call, you know, it was like we’d talk about the symptoms, what’s going on, you know? And it is—you get like all this information and I have—I finally have someone that’s able, like Jenga blocks basically. Like I was just taking blocks out and stuff was coming down, but I had someone to show me, “Hey, we’re gonna take this block out,” and then like the tower stays up perfect.

So that was just like a relief in itself, that part — having someone to guide me. You guys were always available like on call. Because like anybody that’s suffered this type of illness, like your anxiety’s through the roof — like, “What’s this symptom? Oh!” You know? And like you guys were always there. Like I could hit Curtis up on WhatsApp or whatever and he responded back. And like that was super comforting in itself.

And everything was laid out — like here, these are the supplements that you will take, this is what time — like super simple for someone like me that overcomplicates everything. Like it just made the process super smooth and easy for me.

So yeah, I started doing the protocols with like the parasite cleanses and everything. And even stuff I thought I was doing that was good for me — like I was downing bone broth, and I was making it myself, and they say that’s like the best thing — well it wasn’t for me. And you guys like, you know, talking about like high histamine stuff — as soon as I took that out, my BMs improved probably like to half of what was going on. You know?

And I wouldn’t have done that, ‘cause I’m told — like I said, all this information, not knowing what to do with it.

So like the weekly calls, just like talking and being able to just like say what’s going on and being guided through it, like being heard. Because you know my doctors aren’t gonna listen to me. And like the point is just like being heard and having like that compassion there as well — and that makes such a difference instead of being treated like a piece of meat going in and out of a doctor’s office.

I started seeing improvements within like the first month. I got off all my meds, like right away, ‘cause they weren’t working at that point. I was on—I forget, one of them was Uceris, and they weren’t working. And I got off the meds and within a month like I was—I wasn’t like 100% better but I was starting to get formed bowel movements. And like I was telling someone like, yeah sure, like is it 100% easy? But it’s a thousand percent worth it.

And then that’s okay — like I was realizing too, like you guys are there for the bad days and walking us through that, like explaining—just having everything laid out before me was like amazing. There’s no way I would’ve been able to do this on my own.

And as far as the protocols go, like that was the other thing too — like I wasn’t sure what to expect but everything was like laid out for me too. So it just helped with a lot of anxiety. And then like with the—like I want to say this too about it, like there’s a whole—the physical aspect of the protocols and everything, but you guys—and like working with Curtis—it’s more than that. You guys treat it like holistically. Because it was like doing stuff spiritually, like mentally for my mental health, like coming out of fight or flight — like addressing the whole person, which was absolutely amazing.

Like not like, “Okay, we’re just going to work on this and here’s the supplements.” Like, no. “We’re going to work on your mental health, the anxiety,” like all of that — like holistically, the whole person. That was amazing. Super grateful for that.

Josh:
Everything is connected. And I’m so glad we were working with Curtis. And something people don’t often know — they see me on TV and my podcast and around like, “I want to work with Josh.” I’m like, “You guys should probably work with Curtis.” Curtis has been my mentor for six-plus years now. He’s incredible, taught me so much of what I know. And he actually handles a lot of the really tricky severe cases. He’s absolutely incredible at this.

And he identified one of your root causes being parasites. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Lisa:
Oh — like what came out of me?

Josh:
[Laughs] Yes.

Lisa:
Oh! It’s like a new movie: Alien vs. Predator 2024: Bowel Disease. It is wild to see some of the things.

Josh:
Let’s talk about that. What came out of you?

Lisa:
Oh God — like stuff that I wasn’t expecting. Like, you know, like I always kind of assumed I had parasites because I got like EOE and the high eosinophils, whatever those white blood cells. But like when it actually happens, you’re like, “Whoa. What is happening?”

Yeah, like at night — because you do it during the full moon, I guess when they’re most active — and like, you know, I’m doing like these coffee enemas and stuff, and at night I’d actually feel like a tingling sensation in my intestines and in like my rectum area. And the next day — like we talked about this — like I’m going in the bathroom and I’m having normal bathrooms for the first time in like three years.

Okay? And then I just—this is so gross, I guess I’m in good company—I like feel something, and I’m like, “What the hell is that?” And I look down and it was this long brown ropey-looking thing, I was like, “Oh. Yep. That just came out of me.”

Yeah. I saw—it was like a science experiment. And I like experimenting on myself, you know? Like I’d see like these little—almost looked like little stones and, um, like little white things, I guess it’s like the candida I saw. But yeah, I saw it a few times. So I kept like—I don’t know what I’m looking for, like poop looks funny anyways, but then I was like, “Oh. They kind of float. That’s different.”

Lisa:
They’re very—yeah, they’re like ropey and stringy. It’s almost like—if you compare—weird analogy—but compare like normal healthy stool to like meat, for example. But then the tendons and the ligaments? That’s the parasite. It’s this really stringy, tense, sort of almost crunchy in some ways.

Josh:
It’s a horrific feeling. I remember my first parasite. Everybody remembers their first. It was—it was so weird.

And so walk me through this because I know you had—I talked to Curtis—and you went to go see your doctor recently. You went for a follow-up, you did a colonoscopy. Tell me about your first colonoscopy. Tell me about the story of going through your second — what he had to say about this whole thing.

Lisa:
Oh my God. So like—on my whole, my medical charts—it says like “Against medical advice,” and I am like, you know—so I’m that patient. Whatever. But my newer guy, he’s like, “Okay.”

So I’m like going in and get ready to go under. He walks in, he goes, “Okay, might not wake up from anesthesia, blah blah,” all that. And then he’s like, “Oh, so list of meds — oh, you’re not taking any?” He goes, “Can’t wait to see how this goes.”

Because prior to that, I had one in August and then in March, right before I started the program. And like my—for better words—was literally on fire. It was like fire engine red, like bleeding.

So he just was kind of like, “Okay, yeah, we’ll see.” And then I was like, “Oh, and when I wake up, I got pictures to show you.” And he’s like, “Like what?”

And so I came out of the anesthesia, I was a little loopy. My poor dad’s sitting in the corner of the room. And he’s like—he actually looked at me and he’s like, “I’m kind of speechless.” He goes, “I don’t know what to say right now.” He goes, “I don’t know what you’re doing,” he goes, “but keep doing it.”

He goes, “I’m in shock right now that this is what this looks like.” And he’s like, “I’m not going to tell you to stop what you’re doing.”

And then he’s like, “Well, you know, you could get back on mesalamine,” and I’m like—he’s like, “Yeah, I didn’t think so.”

And then I was like, “I got a surprise, wait!” And he’s like, “What is it?” I’m like, “You gotta see the worms I pooped out.” And I’m like, like loopy, I’m like, “You gotta see the worms I pooped out.”

My dad’s over in the corner going, “She’s that one daughter that I have that, you know, all the weird stuff happens to.”

And I showed him the pictures of what I had in my phone and his mouth dropped. And he called the nurses over and they’re all looking at him like shaking their head. They’re like, “How did this—like how would you have gotten that?”

I’m like, “‘Cause we get them. I’m like a barefoot hippie.” Like, you know, “I let my dog lick my face.” Like totally.

And so he was just like dumbfounded. I don’t know if maybe it changed his whole trajectory, but I think his head blew up that day with what I was showing him.

Because like, yeah — he was like, “You need to be on biologics. Surgery. Blah blah blah.” And I walk out of there, you know, 16 weeks later from the last one — not on medication. Because he literally told me the last time I saw him, if I don’t take medication, like I’m going to get the ‘S word,’ your colon’s going to collapse, all this horrible stuff. And then I’m walking out of there like, “Well. Went different.”

Josh:
Did not see that one coming, did they?

Lisa:
No. Cool. It was pretty cool. It felt good. It felt good to give it back to him. Like yeah.

Josh:
So Lisa, here’s my question for you. What are your symptoms now?

Lisa:
For the most part? Like, I don’t really have any. I’m still doing like what I need to do as far as protocols go and stuff. And that’s like the one thing I was trying to say or explain to people that ask me is like—I didn’t get this overnight, it’s not going away overnight.

You know, I’ve had this for however-ex-many years diagnosed. I don’t know how long it took for me even to like get to the point where I’m at. And I’m not expecting a quick fix. Like, you know, I feel better. Things are looking good. But I’m going to keep going, because I’m so hopeful of just like being done with this at this point, you know?

So like my only like thing now is like I get tired every now and then, but that could be from anything.

Josh:
It could be from anything.

Lisa:
And like—oh, and I forgot to even say. So I got co-occurring, whatever, autoimmune—the EOE in my throat. All of a sudden I’m allergic to all these foods. Everything I eat, my throat closes up, and I have to like puke at a restaurant in front of—it's horrible. Really embarrassing.

That has pretty much gone away since this protocol too.

And they’re like, “Yeah, there’s nothing we can do about that.” I’m like, “So I’m just supposed to choke every time I eat and not eat anything because apparently I’m allergic to cardboard?” You know?

So that’s pretty much resolved itself too. Like things are going pretty good. And I—I don’t want to like stop what I’m doing. But yeah, maybe I’m tired every now and then. I’m still just cleaning up some mess.

Josh:
Yeah. Well, I think it’s so important that you have that recognition. You know, this has been—you got diagnosed in 2013, and that’s the diagnosis date. Not to mention everything leading up to what issues you were having before it got so severe you finally got diagnosed.

So would it be fair to say 15 years of ongoing…?

Lisa:
Oh yeah. Looking back now, I’m like, I’ve had this for a while. Yeah. Like I’ve always had like bowel problems.

Josh:
Wow. So it’s only been four months out of, say, 15-plus years. And I think that’s the most important thing to recognize.

I sort of talk about it like this — we’re not magicians, right? We don’t do anything the body’s not doing on its own. We just facilitate the processes it’s unable to do. We remove the thing that’s keeping it there.

For you, it was parasites and whatever else is causing your disease process. We remove them, the body heals you. It’s inflamed anyway — it’s already trying to heal you, it’s just flamed so long, it’s now breaking down.

It’s like taking a controlled burn to a brush versus having a forest fire that’s catastrophic and burning a country — that’s kind of what’s going on.

And so I talk about it this way — if we are surgeons, you know, and you jump off the third-story roof, having a party, drank too much, and you break your leg in four different places — my job? I’m not going to wave my hands, hocus pocus, you’re going to walk the next day.

I go in as a surgeon — my job would be to put pins and needles and screws and get your bone reset, get you casted and get you to a place your body heals. Now you can walk around the block, you have to go to physiotherapy and retrain the muscles and rebuild.

You’ve gotten this far. There’s more to do, yes. But that’s the ongoing work of continuing to give your body the tools and resources it needs to do the job it’s been trying to do for 15 years while you’ve been inflamed.

But now you’re here.

The number one thing — listening — that I want you to keep in mind: inflammation is never ever ever ever—emphasis on the ever—random. Never. It’s always for a reason.
And you went through that. And you are living, walking, breathing proof that your GI specialist, your nurses, the whole Western medical system just doesn’t recognize that.

They’re taught that disease is an innate part of your biology. Like, it’s just part of you. And you got this because it’s bad luck, or God plays favorites, or it’s just genetic, or whatever it is.

But it’s not.

And you’re proving that. Your scopes have shown—you got what? One little speck left now? After 16 weeks? From one that was about to be removed?

Lisa:
That’s so powerful.

Josh:
Yeah, dude.

Lisa:
Like I cry every day. Like I’m so freaking grateful. Because like I really wanted to like end it. And now I’m like—I went on vacation. I went hiking. I climbed a mountain. I went to my concert that I want. Like, I’m doing my life.

I’m not a prisoner anymore.
And that in itself is like the greatest gift — to feel like I’m alive again.

Josh:
Yeah, it’s amazing. For sure.

It’s only been four months. Just wait. Just wait to what the future holds.

I’m so excited for you. There’s so much more to go. The body is remarkable. As Curtis says, it’s a very impressive meat suit. And it’s just here to constantly work for us and to heal us. And that’s what yours is doing — very successfully — now that we’ve been able to remove the thing that was keeping you down.

But it’s not easy, is it? Like, it’s—it’s a bit rigorous. It takes a lot of work on your end. I think people want a quick fix.

Can you share a bit about your experience during this process? The challenges that maybe you came into?

Lisa:
Yeah, I mean like—I’m human. I want to resist stuff, of course. Like, “Oh, who wants to like go home and do a coffee enema?” Right?

Yeah. And in the beginning, like, I’m the type of person—I’m very much like, “I’m all in. I’m doing it.” And so like, as soon as I got the stuff even, I’m like, “Okay, I got to do it all and really quick.”
 And I—it was like—because, you know, my lymphatic system, come to find out, you know—and this was when I was doing it on my own—I wasn’t taking care of my lymphatic system. I learned a lot about that.

Mine’s extremely backed up. I was like doing probably extra massage work than I should have been doing and going—you know, “More is better.”
 And this is something that I’ve learned very well during these last 16 weeks — that it’s not better.

I ended up inflaming a lymph node. It got backed up. I ended up getting what felt like the flu — had a really high fever for like three or four days. And my lymph node swelled up to like the size of a golf ball. And it hurt.

And I’m just like—and I was like, “I’m gonna quit this. This sucks and blah blah blah.” And it’s just like, “No. Like, come on. Like you weren’t listening. And that’s okay.”

And then like, you know, you get parasite die-off symptoms and you—sometimes you get tired, don’t feel well.
 And then that’s what Curtis was there for. I’m like, “Hey Curtis, this sucks.” And he’s like, “Well, we’ll just back off.”

And like, that was cool — to have like him right there when it happened. Like, “Hey.”
 Curtis is freaking amazing. He’s super attentive. I’m so grateful. I’m going to be really sad when I leave the program.
I said, “He’s like my therapist at this point.”

But yeah, like, “Hey, we’re going to back off of this.” And so like yeah, there’s stuff like that. And it’s just like—some days like, “Man, I don’t feel like doing this. I don’t feel like walking around the block and doing the massage work,” you know?

And then that happens. And that’s okay. Because you get back on it.

There was times where I’m like, “I want to quit this” in the beginning. And then I was thinking about it, I’m like, “You know, like you’re detoxing. This is good. This is actually good.”
 Be grateful. Like some of the stuff is happening because you’re moving stuff around that needed to be moved.

So yeah, like those were some of the things that sucked, for sure.

Josh:
I think people kind of want this smooth, consistent—it really is like this. There’s ups and downs and peaks and valleys.

But was it worth it?

Lisa:
Hell yeah.

Josh:
That’s what I said.

Lisa:
A hundred percent. Like it’s hard, but a thousand percent worth it any day. And like I said, I was skeptical about this whole thing because nothing else has worked.

Dude, I—hands down—like, I’m a believer.

Josh:
Believer!

Lisa:
Yeah.

Josh:
Amazing. Well, I want to throw the ball back to your court here, Lisa, before we start kind of winding things up and wrapping it up.

Is there anything we haven’t covered, anything we haven’t mentioned or talked about that you want to make sure you say to anybody who’s listening to this right now?

Lisa:
I mean like—I felt like I was hopeless, basically. And I said, like, I wasn’t a believer in it and I didn’t think anything was going to work. You know, I’m being punished by the gods or whatever at this point.

But like—yeah, like it works. If it works for me, it can work for other people. I was in a pretty bad spot.

And then like, I guess one of the things was like, “Oh, money,” and stuff like—you guys worked with me and like what I could afford, couldn’t afford. And I took out a credit—like, it doesn’t even matter, for real.
 Because like the amount of time I’ve lost work, I’ve lost like just dumping—it doesn’t matter.

Like, if you’re still skeptical, give it a try. Like do an intake call. I don’t know what else to say.
But yeah — like it works. I’m proof of that.
And I actually made sure I got scopes to say, “Hey look, it works.”

Josh:
Yeah, I don’t just feel better, but it physically like—it looks better. We now have the testimonial from you. You’ve got your scopes to prove it. Your doctor’s jaw’s on the floor.

I really hope that stories like yours really start to change the trajectory of the way the world sees inflammatory bowel disease —
as no longer this innate part of your DNA, but a very fixable condition.

Because the truth is, if we see this thing as being inevitable, just part of you, we start to accept the fact that, “Well, if I can at least mask my symptoms, I’m happy.” And that’s what the doctors are calling a win.
 Because this is all they know — “Well, we have to mask the symptoms. At best, if we can do that, that’s a success.”

But if you understand that this can be reversed, that it’s an inflammatory reaction to something — not because of bad luck, or bad genetics, or whatever they say it is — then we’re no longer happy just masking the symptoms.
We’re only happy when we understand what the root is. We can name it, identify it, remove it, and watch your body heal — just like yours has.

And as little as four months! I mean, there’s more to go — but you’re 95% of the way there in just four months’ time, which is absolutely remarkable. I’m so, so proud of all the work you’ve done.

Lisa:
Yeah. Like that’s—I guess that’s a big thing. Like I said, like the symptoms and stuff — like, “Oh, the damage.”
You—once you damage—like my stuff looks like a normal person. It says “normal” at the bottom of the thing. Like, it looks pink and healthy.

Like they’re telling you for like—you can’t do that, you need to take this med to reverse the damage.
 Like, it’s reversing.
Like when you say reversible — that’s what’s happening.

So grateful that I decided to listen to you guys and like on that Facebook group — it’s so random. But it’s not random.

Josh:
Nope.

Lisa:
‘Cause like, dude — like literally, you guys saved my life. For real.

Josh:
It’s amazing. Any famous last words before I wrap this up?

Lisa:
It’s reversible.
Don’t listen to the doctors.
I mean you can—you can, but like, whatever they told you that you can’t heal and you can’t heal yourself — it’s propaganda. And they’re indoctrinated.

Do your research.

Josh:
I love that. Unbiased research into some—some people who might be quacks, who might be crazy like me and Curtis. We’re absolute snake oil quacky salesmen.
As per Reddit, anyways.

But here you are, living, breathing proof that that is otherwise. So—we’re ecstatic.

Lisa:
Yeah. I’ll go to bat for you guys. Legend.

Josh:
Appreciate you. We’ll get matching gang tattoos.

Lisa:
Oh yeah. Of my colon.

Josh:
Of your colon!

Lisa, thank you so, so much. Your story’s been amazing. I hope this inspires somebody who’s listening, going, “It’s hopeless. There’s nothing I can do.”
 I hope this just shifts something for you to say, “Maybe there’s more to it.”

Even if you just listen to the podcast, jump on the YouTube channel — whatever that happens to be — there’s more out there. And your doom and gloom story doesn’t have to be what your doctors say it is.

It can be like Larisa.
It can be a story of success, where you go from on the cusp of having your colon removed, your life in the toilet, damn near ruined, ready to put a TV in the bathroom because that’s all you can handle…
to actually living your life, going skiing, and just being a human being, living the way that you deserve to live.

It’s absolutely incredible.

Lisa:
Thank you. Thank you so much. Everything. And yeah — you even got free stuff too. Check out—check that out.

Josh:
If you’re here listening today and you heard about Lisa’s story and want to know how you can make this incredible transformation as well — it’s not out of reach. It’s not an impossibility. It can be very much in your near future.
All you have to do is go down to check out the links in the show notes below. We’ve got all kinds of information in there on how to reach us, how to join our programs.

If you do access these, we promise you—we’re going to work with you diligently over the course of 16 weeks to get you the health, hope, and healing that you know you deserve.

Hopefully, we’ll see you inside.